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ninjah Message #77578, posted by ninj at 12:08, 12/7/2006, in reply to message #77568
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I remember being all excited at the sight of a brand new BBC Master being unboxed at the back of the classroom one afternoon :E
So either your school couldn't afford Arc's, or you started going to school at age 1 :P
They did get a couple of A3010s and A3020s, but mainly still used BBCs. Then the school burnt down.
Ah, the pesky self-combusting Master problem ;) If only they'd made them last 12 months before catching fire, rather than a few months, they could have made a lot of money out of the reorders. Providing the owner still had a house.
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John Hoare Message #77579, posted by moss at 12:40, 12/7/2006, in reply to message #77577

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Kids used to write all sorts of interesting little programs when I was at school. Can't imagine them doing that now.
They used to do that at my secondary school, but the year I was guna do it they switched to windows :(
It really is a shame. Because writing your own programs is such a great way to feel *comfortable* with computers.
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ninjah Message #77583, posted by ninj at 14:13, 12/7/2006, in reply to message #77579
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It's a great way to make people comfortable with *coding* computers. Kids seem to be perfectly comfortable with using PCs to play Age of Empires, or download dodgy music.

Personally, the less people entering employment who are heading into coding, the better for me! There's already more people than the industry needs. And if it's only the few schools that have stuck with RISC OS producing 16 year olds with coding experience, that means more people with RISC OS coding experience rather than any other sort, hence more potential Netsurf devs. Hurrah!
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Jeffrey Lee Message #77585, posted by Phlamethrower at 14:36, 12/7/2006, in reply to message #77583
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It's a great way to make people comfortable with *coding* computers.
And working out what's gone wrong when the computers invariably die horribly.

Personally, the less people entering employment who are heading into coding, the better for me! There's already more people than the industry needs.
So, how long have you been a professional programmer? :o

And if it's only the few schools that have stuck with RISC OS producing 16 year olds with coding experience, that means more people with RISC OS coding experience rather than any other sort, hence more potential DeathDawn devs. Hurrah!
Indeed!
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Simon Challands Message #77586, posted by SimonC at 16:50, 12/7/2006, in reply to message #77583
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Right on, Commander!

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Personally, the less people entering employment who are heading into coding, the better for me! There's already more people than the industry needs. And if it's only the few schools that have stuck with RISC OS producing 16 year olds with coding experience, that means more people with RISC OS coding experience rather than any other sort, hence more potential Netsurf devs. Hurrah!
Funnily enough, and having despite programmed in BASIC on the Beeb before, on various RISC OS machines since, having dabbled in a bit of assembler, and programming in C on various things at work these days, I've still not got around to learning how to write anything multitasking and wimp-using. I first intended to do that when I was about 17.
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Simon Challands Message #77587, posted by SimonC at 16:51, 12/7/2006, in reply to message #77574
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Right on, Commander!

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Simon - are you worried about turning 30?
I'm not looking forward to it. It seems like the end of being young, and that I'll be heading into middle age territory.
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Jeffrey Lee Message #77588, posted by Phlamethrower at 17:22, 12/7/2006, in reply to message #77586
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Funnily enough, and having despite programmed in BASIC on the Beeb before, on various RISC OS machines since, having dabbled in a bit of assembler, and programming in C on various things at work these days, I've still not got around to learning how to write anything multitasking and wimp-using. I first intended to do that when I was about 17.
The main problem with the WIMP I think is that the data structures it uses are a bit compacted. Working out what text/sprite/redirection flags to use, etc. can be a bit fiddly.

And the funny coordinate systems it uses always stump me :(
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Andrew Message #77592, posted by andrew at 19:23, 12/7/2006, in reply to message #77587
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Simon - are you worried about turning 30?
I'm not looking forward to it. It seems like the end of being young, and that I'll be heading into middle age territory.
Here's a few thoughts:

Image the likes of movie stars who stay fit until well /past/ middle age and keep imaging it when something else tries pops in your mind. e.g. Stallone is doing a new Rocky film. Have you seen the trailer - he's in great shape. (you are as young as you think you are - your choice).

You /are/ still young in your 30s and look at the experience/insight you have over early 20s. Do you really want to go back to that?

Have a youthful "spirit". Have you ever spoken to many 20-somethings? How many are trying to or have become over-sophisticated, jaded and tired? Nows the time to ditch that rubbish once and for all eh?

You'll soon be laughing :)

[Edited by andrew at 20:24, 12/7/2006]
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VinceH Message #77595, posted by VincceH at 21:17, 12/7/2006, in reply to message #77587
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Simon - are you worried about turning 30?
I'm not looking forward to it. It seems like the end of being young, and that I'll be heading into middle age territory.
Age is a funny old thing (it really is old - it's been around for years). While you're a young 'un (unless you're a lager lout yoof) you tend to try to act ahead of your years. Then, as you come towards a pivotal age like 30 you begin to worry about the fact that you'll be 'officially' old. Result, you start acting young - worse case scenario, you act like said lager lout yoofs. Then you hit 30, and act your age for a bit.

Then you reach a point where you think "this is how old I am? Who the hell cares; I'm going to do what I want, when I want, and with whom I want[1]" and for the first time in, like, ever (or at least since you were a kid) you're just being *you* and not pretending to be something you aren't.

This is a variation (and some might say a dry run) for the next pivotal age - 40. The variation is because, allegedly, after 40 you start acting young again.

I'll be saying "stuff that, thank you very much, and carry on doing what I want, when I want, and with whom I want[1]" rather than try to be something I'm not.

So, in summary - don't worry about it; cut out the middle steps of worrying about your age and acting young, and just get on with doing what you want, when you want, and with whom you want[1].

[1] As long as she's old enough to be legal, natch! :devil:
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Andrew Message #77600, posted by andrew at 10:38, 13/7/2006, in reply to message #77595
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Simon - ignore Vince, his is a recipe for doing nothing ;)
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Jeffrey Lee Message #77601, posted by Phlamethrower at 11:07, 13/7/2006, in reply to message #77600
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Simon - ignore Vince, his is a recipe for doing nothing ;)
Except the ones who are old enough to be legal :o
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Adrian Lees Message #77602, posted by adrianl at 11:32, 13/7/2006, in reply to message #77592
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You /are/ still young in your 30s and look at the experience/insight you have over early 20s.
Thanks for that thought. This thread was started on my 31st birthday ;)
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Simon Challands Message #77604, posted by SimonC at 12:52, 13/7/2006, in reply to message #77600
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Right on, Commander!

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Simon - ignore Vince, his is a recipe for doing nothing ;)
I'm good at doing nothing. It is a talent I have spent quite a bit of time nuturing.

As for being fit, I've not been fit since I stopped doing my paper round, years ago :-/ I make the occasional gesture towards it, but resisting food is too hard (I keep asking the work canteen to put the price of puddings to something a lot higher than 42p!) Still, I can manage to drag myself up the fells, and I've not (yet) got stuck trying to crawl through a collapsed bit of a disused mine, not that there's much that's really narrow there.

I suppose avoiding the Friday night in the pub would lose a bit of the belly, but I need that to look forward to at the end of the week.
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ninjah Message #77608, posted by ninj at 14:00, 13/7/2006, in reply to message #77592
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Image the likes of movie stars who stay fit until well /past/ middle age and keep imaging it when something else tries pops in your mind. e.g. Stallone is doing a new Rocky film. Have you seen the trailer - he's in great shape. (you are as young as you think you are - your choice).
That works for a while - but eventually if you keep doing that you turn into Iggy Pop :o :| :(

I dunno, I'm probably in better shape than I was when I was 20. But that's only relative - it's a lot easier to be more fit than a student living off john smiths and fray bentos, with the main method of exercise being a bar crawl ;)
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VinceH Message #77619, posted by VincceH at 17:26, 13/7/2006, in reply to message #77601
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Simon - ignore Vince, his is a recipe for doing nothing ;)
Except the ones who are old enough to be legal :o
That's only in theory.

In practice I'm a sad geeky type who, most of the time, is doing nothing.

Still, there's always interweb pr0n.
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Jeffrey Lee Message #77623, posted by Phlamethrower at 17:47, 13/7/2006, in reply to message #77619
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In practice I'm a sad geeky type who, most of the time, is doing nothing.
Don't do nothing, do something!
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Andrew Message #77625, posted by andrew at 18:31, 13/7/2006, in reply to message #77619
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Simon - ignore Vince, his is a recipe for doing nothing ;)
Except the ones who are old enough to be legal :o
That's only in theory.

In practice I'm a sad geeky type who, most of the time, is doing nothing.
Well you've just set out the theory in which to continue following as the future is not written.


Still, there's always interweb pr0n.
Can you not at least try to get the real thing in a real relationship?
pron inflames the appetite for more pron, that's how it works. It's nothing more than chewing food (and in massively greater quantities than is needed) then spitting it out before swallowing and absorbing. That's how stupid pron is.
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John Hoare Message #77626, posted by moss at 19:01, 13/7/2006, in reply to message #77625

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I'm lucky enough to enjoy both porn and actual sex :o

Actual sex takes precedence, of course, but porn is very useful if your girlfriend doesn't feel like it/isn't there/is asleep...
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VinceH Message #77628, posted by VincceH at 20:22, 13/7/2006, in reply to message #77625
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Still, there's always interweb pr0n.
Can you not at least try to get the real thing in a real relationship?
No, that's absolutely impossible, and I would never do anything at all like that, no way, not ever. Women are scary. They have handbags and stuff. Some of them even have brollies. They're dangerous.

pron inflames the appetite for more pron, that's how it works.
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The correct spelling is pr0n, not pron.
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It's nothing more than chewing food (and in massively greater quantities than is needed) then spitting it out before swallowing and absorbing.
<wipes coffee off screen>

That's how stupid pron is.
Yeah, but you get to see naked women!

Breasts!

Breasts are great.
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Andrew Message #77632, posted by andrew at 23:24, 13/7/2006, in reply to message #77628
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Thankfully I see through your leg-pulling and foresee the great future reality of you with a real well-adjusted woman :D
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VinceH Message #77661, posted by VincceH at 16:58, 14/7/2006, in reply to message #77632
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Thankfully I see through your leg-pulling and foresee the great future reality of you with a real well-adjusted woman :D
Me? Leg pulling? Don't be silly - I'd never dream of doing such a thing! :angel:
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VinceH Message #77662, posted by VincceH at 17:02, 14/7/2006, in reply to message #77623
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In practice I'm a sad geeky type who, most of the time, is doing nothing.
Don't do nothing, do something!
I have quite enough on plate already, ta!

WebChange alone is still *miles* from being at a point where I can release it, and that rewrite was started before the official release of the Iyonix.

I just don't have time for this programming malarky anymore. :|
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Jeffrey Lee Message #77663, posted by Phlamethrower at 17:13, 14/7/2006, in reply to message #77662
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I just don't have time for this programming malarky anymore. :|
That's because you're spending too much time doing nothing! ;)

In practice I'm a sad geeky type who, most of the time, is doing nothing.
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Andrew Duffell Message #115653, posted by ad at 19:59, 17/10/2010, in reply to message #77663

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VinceH Message #115677, posted by VincceH at 12:34, 18/10/2010, in reply to message #115653
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It's all true, you know. All of it. Every last word. Doing nothing is my favourite way to pass the time, and I try as hard as I can to do nothing for as much time as possible.
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