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Jeffrey Lee |
Message #100893, posted by Phlamethrower at 10:14, 28/3/2007, in reply to message #100889 |
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Except I hate platformers. (As a general rule of thumb. Canvas Curse being the obvious exception.) It's slightly more puzzle based than the standard running-around-stomping-on-things-and-avoiding-instadeath gameplay of Mario games. And you get to pick up sleepy old archeologist-types and throw them at things  |
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richard cheng |
Message #100898, posted by richcheng at 11:52, 28/3/2007, in reply to message #100893 |
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Except I hate platformers. (As a general rule of thumb. Canvas Curse being the obvious exception.) It's slightly more puzzle based than the standard running-around-stomping-on-things-and-avoiding-instadeath gameplay of Mario games. And you get to pick up sleepy old archeologist-types and throw them at things
Hmmm. Like Citadel? (Which I hated.) Or like an awesome IF? (Which I love!)
In other news, I completed Metroid Prime Pinball on the train this morning. It's a wonderful game. Bit easy though. In real life, I love pinball, but I suck at it. Roll on "Expert Mode". |
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Jeffrey Lee |
Message #100899, posted by Phlamethrower at 12:13, 28/3/2007, in reply to message #100898 |
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Except I hate platformers. (As a general rule of thumb. Canvas Curse being the obvious exception.) It's slightly more puzzle based than the standard running-around-stomping-on-things-and-avoiding-instadeath gameplay of Mario games. And you get to pick up sleepy old archeologist-types and throw them at things
Hmmm. Like Citadel? (Which I hated.)
Never played it.
Or like an awesome IF? (Which I love!) You are in a rectangular room. A barrier to the east prevents further travel.
A sleepy archeologist is here.
> examine barrier
The barrier is too high to jump over, and cannot be climbed. But there is a gap near the ceiling. On the other side of the barrier you can see: A switch block, a treasure chest.
> take archeologist
Taken.
> throw archeologist over barrier
How rude!
The archeologist bounces off the ceiling
The archeologist lands on the switch block on the other side of the barrier.
The barrier vanishes!
The archeologist lands on the floor.
You hear a ticking noise.
> east
You see here: An archeologist wriggling around on his back, a treasure chest, and a switch block.
You hear a ticking noise.
> take treasure
Taken.
The ticking stops and the barrier reappears!
So not really, no  |
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Phil Mellor |
Message #100900, posted by monkeyson2 at 12:14, 28/3/2007, in reply to message #100898 |
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Like Citadel? (Which I hated.) Citadel was brilliant!
But impossible!
In other news, I completed Metroid Prime Pinball on the train this morning. It's a wonderful game. Bit easy though. In real life, I love pinball, but I suck at it. Roll on "Expert Mode". *shakes fist at Nintendo Europe* |
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Jeffrey Lee |
Message #100944, posted by Phlamethrower at 11:55, 29/3/2007, in reply to message #100900 |
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http://www.xploder.net/?a=products&id=86
Retro gaming, there. |
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Phil Mellor |
Message #100968, posted by monkeyson2 at 21:59, 29/3/2007, in reply to message #100944 |
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I have Contact!
It's quite charming. |
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Jeffrey Lee |
Message #100971, posted by Phlamethrower at 22:10, 29/3/2007, in reply to message #100968 |
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So, what you're saying is that some wierd old man has contacted you through your DS? Is that entirely safe? |
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Phil Mellor |
Message #100972, posted by monkeyson2 at 22:52, 29/3/2007, in reply to message #100971 |
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Hey, I never realised the wifi connection was so good! |
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Jeffrey Lee |
Message #100994, posted by Phlamethrower at 15:07, 31/3/2007, in reply to message #100972 |
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Yay! Finished world 7 of Mario. Still a few hidden stages to unlock (including those cannons - not sure how to get to those), and some big coins to collect, but that's about it.
*starts on Phoenix Wright* |
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Jeffrey Lee |
Message #101004, posted by Phlamethrower at 19:56, 31/3/2007, in reply to message #100994 |
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Phoenix Wright is the BEST GAME EVER *
* possibly
*pokes all DS owners to get it, and all non-DS owners to get a DS and then get it*
I just ordered Phoenix Wright (from Tesco - much cheaper than Amazon) Has it arrived yet? We need to convert the non-believers!
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Jeffrey Lee |
Message #101022, posted by Phlamethrower at 09:46, 1/4/2007, in reply to message #101004 |
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Yay! Animal Crossing April Fools. |
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richard cheng |
Message #101054, posted by richcheng at 09:54, 2/4/2007, in reply to message #101004 |
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Phoenix Wright is the BEST GAME EVER *
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*pokes all DS owners to get it, and all non-DS owners to get a DS and then get it*
I just ordered Phoenix Wright (from Tesco - much cheaper than Amazon) Has it arrived yet? We need to convert the non-believers! That would be a no.
Tescos emailed me yesterday to tell me my order had been delayed, again.
Methinks, given Monkeyson's comments above, the games advertised at under £20 on Tesco's site are just to suck you in to their twisted web of deceit, and they don't actually have any intention of selling them to you at that price. |
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Jeffrey Lee |
Message #101064, posted by Phlamethrower at 13:04, 2/4/2007, in reply to message #101054 |
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Yay! Finished world 7 of Mario. Still a few hidden stages to unlock (including those cannons - not sure how to get to those), and some big coins to collect, but that's about it. I unlocked a cannon! It's just a way of skipping to a later world  And there are pipes which can take you to the castle level of the current world. Bonus features for speedrunners, I guess.
Phoenix Wright is the BEST GAME EVER *
* possibly
*pokes all DS owners to get it, and all non-DS owners to get a DS and then get it*
I just ordered Phoenix Wright (from Tesco - much cheaper than Amazon) Has it arrived yet? We need to convert the non-believers! That would be a no.
Tescos emailed me yesterday to tell me my order had been delayed, again.
Methinks, given Monkeyson's comments above, the games advertised at under £20 on Tesco's site are just to suck you in to their twisted web of deceit, and they don't actually have any intention of selling them to you at that price.
Well, I hope you've learnt your lesson 
Get a copy of Warioland 4 to pass the time (Or the first Phoenix Wright game  ) |
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richard cheng |
Message #101067, posted by richcheng at 14:17, 2/4/2007, in reply to message #101064 |
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Well, I hope you've learnt your lesson
Get a copy of Warioland 4 to pass the time (Or the first Phoenix Wright game ) That's what I was trying to get! |
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Jeffrey Lee |
Message #101068, posted by Phlamethrower at 14:21, 2/4/2007, in reply to message #101067 |
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That's what I was trying to get! Oh. Well in that case, buy the second one!
You don't need to have played the first one to know who everyone is, because evil person + fire extinguisher = amnesia. And then when you get rid of it, they do a recap to explain who everyone is anyway.
Or, buy Warioland 4.
Or both. |
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Jeffrey Lee |
Message #101169, posted by Phlamethrower at 15:25, 8/4/2007, in reply to message #101068 |
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It turns out that cheap webcam+daylight+blutac+DS = almost half-decent DS/GBA video capture kit (Either that or mess around on lots of dodgy websites looking for a Warioland 4 ROM. This way seemed far more fun.)
Anyway, here is an actually rather long (20 mins) yet rather small (50MB) video showing some Warioland 4 gameplay.
* Opening cinematics
* The tutorial level & boss
* The first proper level (although, you're free to start at any world you wish)
* A couple of the minigames (since I ran out of money to do the 3rd. And that one sucks anyway )
In particular, it's reminded me of several of the key features of the game that make it so excellent. So for lazy people who don't want to watch the video (or can't tell what's going on because the quality is somewhat dodgy):
* Cinematics! Both the opening ones, the new-game ones, and the credits when you win (There are multiple endings, too. Those are triggered depending on how many boss treasure chests you manage to collect)
* Music! It's (a) good, (b) unique for each level (I think), (c) has singing (this is a GBA game, remember!), (d) is also situational (e.g. crouching makes it play slower, you get slightly different music in caves, different music altogether for secret rooms, etc. All fading smoothly inbetween)
* Character design! Interesting monsters that are often different from the typical Mario fare, nice smooth animation, etc.
* Level design! All the levels are unique, instead of the 100 or so near-identical level designs found in new SMB. And (unless you play on super-hard difficulty) you're free to complete them at your own pace (instead of being forced on by a rising sea of lava, or the scrolling of the screen, etc.)
* Wario can actually SWIM, unlike Mario. Swimming in new SMB = too hard.
* The minigames!
* Unlockable difficulty levels. IIRC you only start off with "Normal", then get to unlock Hard and Super-Hard. Super-Hard is so hard that I can no longer complete the tutorial level! (Although that's probably just me being too hasty)
* Lots of ways to defeat enemies beyond the usual jumping on their heads tactic, and no cheap kills by throwing fireballs at everything.
* That tutorial boss (which is the easiest of them all) is obviously harder than I remember, judging by how many mistakes I made Even if you buy a powerup from the item shop, the bosses are still likely to be hard. And unlike the "101 Bowser Jr's" from new SMB, all the bosses are unique, and need to be killed in their own special ways (NOT by saving up a giant mushroom and just trouncing all over the boss )
* No fiddly hidden levels or worlds to unlock (and no shortcuts for speedrunners), but there are some CDs to unlock. But the CDs are absolute crap unfortunately It would have been a much more worthwhile feature to allow you to unlock the ingame music rather than the "music" contained on the CDs.
So in summary, Warioland 4 > New SMB.
Also, the DS seems to recreate GBA sound slightly differently from the real thing. I think it could be as simple as it using a different sample rate. In any case, the reproduction of some of the music/effects from Warioland 4 and Golden Sun isn't the same as if it were played on a real GBA. |
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Andrew Poole |
Message #101172, posted by andypoole at 21:06, 8/4/2007, in reply to message #101169 |
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So in summary, Warioland 4 > New SMB. So.. Wario is just a fatter version of Mario, then? |
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Jeffrey Lee |
Message #101173, posted by Phlamethrower at 21:11, 8/4/2007, in reply to message #101172 |
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So in summary, Warioland 4 > New SMB. So.. Wario is just a fatter version of Mario, then?
No
He's also smarter, cooler, stronger, and more manly
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And gets all the best minigames, and appears to be a GTA fan  (I'm sure a couple of the speech samples in the intro music are the same as from the GTA 1 soundtrack. And he drives a car, and commits GBH against sleepy archeologist types)
And yes, I do know that that was probably a rhetorical question
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And since he is Mario's evil twin (or something), yes, it would make sense for him to just be a bigger version of Mario. And the fact that I haven't completed Super Mario Land 2 yet shows just how much smarter he is and how much better and tougher his games are, because it's Wario's castle that I'm stuck on (Except I accidentally ran out of lives while attempting it again a few months ago, so now have to mess around collecting all the coins from the bosses again).
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Andrew Poole |
Message #101188, posted by andypoole at 18:16, 9/4/2007, in reply to message #94408 |
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Get the DS Browser, it's good enough to post things on Plapyen hmm. so it is |
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Jeffrey Lee |
Message #101219, posted by Phlamethrower at 20:45, 10/4/2007, in reply to message #101188 |
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DSes only come with one wrist strap, right? I'm sure that mine came with two, but I can't seem to find the second
I may actually have to BUY a wrist strap for my Zaurus. |
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Andrew Poole |
Message #101220, posted by andypoole at 21:37, 10/4/2007, in reply to message #101219 |
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DSes only come with one wrist strap, right? I'm sure that mine came with two, but I can't seem to find the second Mine only came with one.
Isn't it pretty hard to wear the wrist strap whilst using the DS?
I may actually have to BUY a wrist strap for my Zaurus. Just use the first one from your DS |
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Jeffrey Lee |
Message #101221, posted by Phlamethrower at 21:40, 10/4/2007, in reply to message #101220 |
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Isn't it pretty hard to wear the wrist strap whilst using the DS? Dunno, never tried I just use it for the thumb pad thing. And I just use the thumb pad thing for Mario 64. And I only use it for that because none of the other games I have seem to use it
I may actually have to BUY a wrist strap for my Zaurus. Just use the first one from your DS
But then I won't be able to play Mario 64! (Which I haven't played for ages, anyway) |
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Message #101222, posted by andypoole at 21:44, 10/4/2007, in reply to message #101221 |
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Isn't it pretty hard to wear the wrist strap whilst using the DS? Dunno, never tried I just use it for the thumb pad thing. And I just use the thumb pad thing for Mario 64. And I only use it for that because none of the other games I have seem to use it
^This.
I may actually have to BUY a wrist strap for my Zaurus. Just use the first one from your DS
But then I won't be able to play Mario 64! (Which I haven't played for ages, anyway)
There you go, then
Just swap it over if you wanna play Mario64DS |
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Jeffrey Lee |
Message #101332, posted by Phlamethrower at 20:51, 13/4/2007, in reply to message #101054 |
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I just ordered Phoenix Wright (from Tesco - much cheaper than Amazon) Has it arrived yet? We need to convert the non-believers!
That would be a no.
Tescos emailed me yesterday to tell me my order had been delayed, again.
How about now? I just successfully pawned my copy of PW 1 off on my mum, so don't expect me to be much help if (a) your copy finally arrives and (b) you get stuck. |
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Jeffrey Lee |
Message #101379, posted by Phlamethrower at 10:38, 15/4/2007, in reply to message #101332 |
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And also: Woo! |
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Message #101406, posted by richcheng at 09:32, 16/4/2007, in reply to message #101332 |
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I just ordered Phoenix Wright (from Tesco - much cheaper than Amazon) Has it arrived yet? We need to convert the non-believers!
That would be a no.
Tescos emailed me yesterday to tell me my order had been delayed, again.
How about now? I just successfully pawned my copy of PW 1 off on my mum, so don't expect me to be much help if (a) your copy finally arrives and (b) you get stuck.
They emailed me again on Thursday to say:
We are sorry to inform you that your order has been delayed because the
availability of one of the items has changed.
The item causing the delay:
1 x Phoenix Wright - Ace Attorney
Awaiting stock, expected on Tuesday 24 April 2007 Also, now they send me lots of spam about all their other crap which they may or may not actually have suppliers for.
Tesco == Bastards. |
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Jeffrey Lee |
Message #101409, posted by Phlamethrower at 09:42, 16/4/2007, in reply to message #101406 |
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Jeffrey Lee |
Message #101807, posted by Phlamethrower at 10:53, 28/4/2007, in reply to message #99056 |
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Yay, Hotel Dusk is out in April! Well?
They emailed me again on Thursday to say:
We are sorry to inform you that your order has been delayed because the
availability of one of the items has changed.
The item causing the delay:
1 x Phoenix Wright - Ace Attorney
Awaiting stock, expected on Tuesday 24 April 2007 Also, now they send me lots of spam about all their other crap which they may or may not actually have suppliers for.
Tesco == Bastards. Well? |
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Phil Mellor |
Message #101808, posted by monkeyson2 at 10:57, 28/4/2007, in reply to message #101807 |
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Yay, Hotel Dusk is out in April! Well?
I'm not going to get it until I've finished Contact, and I haven't done that because I've been watching too many DVDs recently.
I haven't seen Hotel Dusk in any shops (well, Game, the one time I checked), either |
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Jeffrey Lee |
Message #102068, posted by Phlamethrower at 21:28, 7/5/2007, in reply to message #101808 |
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More DS games of interest:
ANNO 1701.
18th century Sim City plus strategic warfare plus pirate ships (I assume ) plus colourful graphics. Yay!
Etrian Odyssey.
Colourful turn-based 3D dungeon crawling with map making and high difficulty level. Yay!
It does look like it'll use an encounter-based combat system, but I guess that's more suited to the way the interface works than a roguelike combat system would be. |
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