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gwion (19:12 20/7/2008)
filecore (04:58 21/7/2008)
flibble (11:36 21/7/2008)
filecore (12:20 21/7/2008)
adrianl (14:10 21/7/2008)
Phlamethrower (14:41 21/7/2008)
filecore (17:11 21/7/2008)
andrew (18:24 21/7/2008)
gwion (21:04 21/7/2008)
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G-M |
Message #107879, posted by gwion at 19:12, 20/7/2008 |
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Where can i download BBC B Software that will load of tape/MP3 player? Everywhere i look to download software is in disk images and i cant put them onto disk.
Any help appreciated. |
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Jason Togneri |
Message #107880, posted by filecore at 04:58, 21/7/2008, in reply to message #107879 |
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I'm not entirely sure what you mean - do you have the means to record programs to tape? All the disk images you find are generally aimed at softloading into an emulator. |
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Peter Howkins |
Message #107881, posted by flibble at 11:36, 21/7/2008, in reply to message #107880 |
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I think he's looking for mp3s of the sound data from tape. That way you can plug your mp3 player into the tape input on a real beeb. Which is quite cool, just imagine how many games you could squeeze on one 1GB player  |
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Jason Togneri |
Message #107883, posted by filecore at 12:20, 21/7/2008, in reply to message #107881 |
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Could you eavesdrop on the sound of an emulator loading a tape, and somehow record that? I suppose not. I don't have many ideas here. How do you even plug an MP3 player into the tape input? One of those tape <-> 3.5mm converter things that you get for car stereos? |
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Adrian Lees |
Message #107884, posted by adrianl at 14:10, 21/7/2008, in reply to message #107883 |
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Surely any sensible emulator would emulate only the digital part of the cassette interface. There's simply no point in generating an analogue waveform from the tape image and then building two frequency detectors to respond to the different 0 and 1 tones (IIRC that's how tapes worked).
It probably wouldn't be too hard to write a small program to generate a WAV file which could then MP3-compressed, providing all the details are available, and it'd be a fun project for someone who actually has physical BBC/Elk hardware available to test the output.
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Jeffrey Lee |
Message #107885, posted by Phlamethrower at 14:41, 21/7/2008, in reply to message #107884 |
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It probably wouldn't be too hard to write a small program to generate a WAV file which could then MP3-compressed, providing all the details are available, and it'd be a fun project for someone who actually has physical BBC/Elk hardware available to test the output. It's so easy that someone else has already done it
If you can get hold of a UEF file of the program you want to load, then you can use FreeUEF to convert it to a .WAV which can then be recorded to tape/MP3/whatever. There's also MakeUEF which does the opposite, i.e. convert the tape audio to a UEF file which an emulator can read.
I've also got precompiled RISC OS versions of both here on my site. |
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Jason Togneri |
Message #107886, posted by filecore at 17:11, 21/7/2008, in reply to message #107885 |
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If you can get hold of a UEF file of the program you want to load, then you can use FreeUEF to convert it to a .WAV which can then be recorded to tape/MP3/whatever. There's also MakeUEF which does the opposite, i.e. convert the tape audio to a UEF file which an emulator can read. Interesting, I didn't know about that. I also notice your link is from the Acorn Electron site; I have a collection of Electron UEF tape images, including many old Acorn User cover tapes - sadly I don't have an old Electron I can test this hardware idea with. Emulation is never quite the same.
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Andrew |
Message #107887, posted by andrew at 18:24, 21/7/2008, in reply to message #107885 |
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It probably wouldn't be too hard to write a small program to generate a WAV file which could then MP3-compressed, providing all the details are available, and it'd be a fun project for someone who actually has physical BBC/Elk hardware available to test the output. It's so easy that someone else has already done it
If you can get hold of a UEF file of the program you want to load, then you can use FreeUEF to convert it to a .WAV which can then be recorded to tape/MP3/whatever. There's also MakeUEF which does the opposite, i.e. convert the tape audio to a UEF file which an emulator can read.
I've also got precompiled RISC OS versions of both here on my site.
Yes I think I tried this a few years ago to prove there was another way of transferring software via Warm Silence Softwares parallel tape adaptor to the Acorn machine. Not sure if thetape adaptor would work via a parallel-USB adaptor. |
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G-M |
Message #107888, posted by gwion at 21:04, 21/7/2008, in reply to message #107887 |
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Thanks Guys.
I know have a good lot of software on my MP3 Player.
Thanks
[Edited by gwion at 18:54, 21/1/2010] |
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