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The Icon Bar: The Playpen: Bloody website design "professionals" - BAH!
 
  Bloody website design "professionals" - BAH!
  VincceH (15:33 24/11/2008)
  monkeyson2 (16:50 24/11/2008)
    filecore (18:07 24/11/2008)
    VincceH (18:08 24/11/2008)
      monkeyson2 (18:30 24/11/2008)
      alpha (12:19 26/11/2008)
 
VinceH Message #108839, posted by VincceH at 15:33, 24/11/2008
VincceH
Lowering the tone since the dawn of time

Posts: 1600
One of my clients received an 'odd' email through his contact form this morning. He forwarded it to me to see what I thought, and I replied that it's probably a spammer testing the security of the form, to see if they could use it to relay junk.

Out of interest, I looked at the form, concluding that it requires Javascript to work - so I pointed that out to the guy, explaining why that's not good. He forwarded that to the design company and got a reply saying that the form does not require Javascript, it's powered by PHP and Javascript is only used for validation.

Which, although I'm very rusty with Javascript, AFAICS, is hot, steaming bs. The Javascript performs validation (true) but then, according to my reading of it, submits it - meaning that without Javascript, it doesn't work at all. I quickly used the form in a browser without, and one with to check - and I'm waiting on my client to get back to me to confirm which he has received, but from where I'm sitting, it didn't appear to send in the browser without. (What a surprise).

I sent a reply to the company pointing out that it looks as though their JS validation is also performing the submission, so JS is required. I also asked why, if the form is 'powered by PHP' why the hell the PHP isn't used for the validation (pointing to the equivalent form on my site, which is based on John Williams' PHP form).

I also added that I'm waiting for confirmation on the non-JS attempt at sending, and that I apologise in advance if that did send, but...

If Shaun doesn't receive 'Test 1' then you're a complete muppet.
I feel slightly better now. smile
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Phil Mellor Message #108841, posted by monkeyson2 at 16:50, 24/11/2008, in reply to message #108839
monkeyson2Please don't let them make me be a monkey butler

Posts: 12380
URL, please wink
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Jason Togneri Message #108844, posted by filecore at 18:07, 24/11/2008, in reply to message #108841

Posts: 3868
Pix or STFU.
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VinceH Message #108846, posted by VincceH at 18:08, 24/11/2008, in reply to message #108841
VincceH
Lowering the tone since the dawn of time

Posts: 1600
URL, please wink
The contact form

A Company of Muppets
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Phil Mellor Message #108847, posted by monkeyson2 at 18:30, 24/11/2008, in reply to message #108846
monkeyson2Please don't let them make me be a monkey butler

Posts: 12380
A Company of Muppets
Google page rank is a wonderful thing.
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Tim Fountain Message #108867, posted by alpha at 12:19, 26/11/2008, in reply to message #108846
Forum bod
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What's even sillier is that all they'd have to do to remove the reliance on JS is change type="button" to type="submit".
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