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New ICT curricula and job profiles for the 21st century |
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trevj (13:11 15/8/2013)
flibble (13:28 15/8/2013)
trevj (13:50 15/8/2013)
PaulV (20:39 15/8/2013)
swirlythingy (19:34 16/8/2013)
diodesign (11:31 17/8/2013)
swirlythingy (14:48 18/8/2013)
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Trevor Johnson |
Message #122538, posted by trevj at 13:11, 15/8/2013 |
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I found this (historic) EU document and thought it might be worth a browse. The titles of 80% of the new profiles listed may offer some explanation as to why certain people within I(C)T seem to have insufficient understanding of what they're dealing with! |
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Peter Howkins |
Message #122539, posted by flibble at 13:28, 15/8/2013, in reply to message #122538 |
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I found this (historic) EU document and thought it might be worth a browse. The titles of 80% of the new profiles listed may offer some explanation as to why certain people within I(C)T seem to have insufficient understanding of what they're dealing with! It seems to be happening everywhere. The British Computer Society has rebranded itself 'BCS - The Chartered Institute for IT'. Many of its 'professional' courses seem management focused and lacking in technical skills.
http://certifications.bcs.org/content/ConWebDoc/41558 |
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Trevor Johnson |
Message #122540, posted by trevj at 13:50, 15/8/2013, in reply to message #122539 |
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The British Computer Society has rebranded itself 'BCS - The Chartered Institute for IT'. Yes - deemed too geeky I s'pose! A member of my family studied computing and has never seen the need to join the BCS. AIUI s/he swots up on the latest thing and makes career moves that way. |
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Paul Vernon |
Message #122541, posted by PaulV at 20:39, 15/8/2013, in reply to message #122540 |
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My Soft.Eng. B.Sc. was earned on a BCS accredited degree course. The accreditation added absolutely zero weight to the degree at all in terms of getting jobs etc.
I've never felt the need to join the BCS when I've looked at it, the BCS has never really communicated what it offers.
I've found that having accreditations from businesses such as Microsoft/Sun/Oracle/Google etc. often carries more weight in the job marketplace when a recruiter is looking at your CV than having a Soft.Eng. degree at all.
Sad but true IME especially as many of the MS "exams" that I've done in the past have been little more than a "read this" followed by a "memory test" on what you've just read.
I've even achieved > 90% scores on some MS tests without ever reading about or using the product that I was being tested on. Simple Soft.Eng. common sense and a knowledge of the web development was enough to pass but the MS test was "more important" to the recruiter than the degree. Go figure.
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Martin Bazley |
Message #122545, posted by swirlythingy at 19:34, 16/8/2013, in reply to message #122541 |
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This is apparently what passes for a third-year module in a computer science degree course nowadays.
The urge to take some rotten tomatoes to throw at the lecturer is a strong one. |
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Chris Williams |
Message #122551, posted by diodesign at 11:31, 17/8/2013, in reply to message #122545 |
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This is apparently what passes for a third-year module in a computer science degree course nowadays.
The urge to take some rotten tomatoes to throw at the lecturer is a strong one. Understandable: you're bound to face management problems as well as technical problems as a graduate. My MEng 4th year had business modules. I wish I'd paid more attention to them.
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Martin Bazley |
Message #122552, posted by swirlythingy at 14:48, 18/8/2013, in reply to message #122551 |
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Understandable: you're bound to face management problems as well as technical problems as a graduate. I believe the technical term is "pointy-haired". And just because I will need to tolerate such people doesn't mean I want to become one. |
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