Recently I tried using a disc image of a game cheat in !Beebit by loading in the image into the emulator, booting the 'machine' and then before running the cheat, leaving to the RISC OS desktop and replacing the cheat image with the game image.
This seems to work with some cheats but definitely is not always successful. I'm not sure if this is the emulator or the cheat looking for files that aren't there.

One thing I'm interested in though is being able to type in programs and save as image.
On !6502em you can save as &F0E (what filetype is this?) and then it loads in. I assume it's a special kind of BASIC filetype.
What would be best though is the ability to create images which you could use on !Beebit though. I seem to remember seeing file-transfer software and hardware links on the Beebit website but the facility to save programs is a surely needed.

I don't know if this is useful to anybody but I think it'd be worth making note of it:
Recently I tried using a disc image of a game cheat in !Beebit by loading in the image into the emulator, booting the 'machine' and then before running the cheat, leaving to the RISC OS desktop and replacing the cheat image with the game image.
This seems to work with some cheats but definitely is not always successful. I'm not sure if this is the emulator or the cheat looking for files that aren't there.

You could try editing the disc image to contain both the cheat and the game; have a go using ArcDFS (on the BeebIt website, http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/mjfoot/bbc.htm)

One thing I'm interested in though is being able to type in programs and save as image.
On !6502em you can save as &F0E (what filetype is this?) and then it loads in. I assume it's a special kind of BASIC filetype.
What would be best though is the ability to create images which you could use on !Beebit though. I seem to remember seeing file-transfer software and hardware links on the Beebit website but the facility to save programs is a surely needed.

Are you talking about disc images here? Because I'm pretty certain BeebIt is able to write to them. Create an empty image using ArcDFS and use that to save stuff to.

[Edited by Phlamethrower at 15:34, 14/11/2003]

I wonder if you can still get 5.25 inch drives for RISC OS machines. In the past I've used !Multilink for transferring files from my brother's BBC. Michael Foot reckoned that a lot of people get them second hand these days.

[Edited by andreww at 17:20, 14/11/2003]

However, this still doesn't let Beebit create files does it?

Create files where?

BeebIt will let you read/write to DFS images, which can then be read/write using ArcDFS on RISC OS.

If you want to access RISC OS files directly then you might want to try BeebItFS, also from the BeebIt website.

If you're talking about something else though (writing directly to 5.25" discs?) then I've got no idea about it though.

Creating a DFS partition

A blank partition disc file may be created by running the !Partition application also present on the ArcDFS disc. Make sure that the disc upon which you wish to create the partition is not write-protected. Read the section below for advice on the naming of the partition if you wish to use the partition with the DFS filer. A file-name of 'drive5' should be given if the partition is to be accessed as drive 5.

All I want to do really is save a file onto the disc but as I say
the emulator required an image to be present to do this.

I'm not 100% sure what you're trying to do, but if you use ArcDFS to
create a virtual drive 0, you can then drag the drive0 file to BeebIt
and use that blank disc image to write files to.

6502em will let you do this it just seems strange that !Beebit
can't.

6502Em does not use disc images, so I assume you are talking about
saving files directly to the RISC OS disc? BeebIt can do this to if you
install and use BeebItFS.

I'll check BeebitFS but if I wanted to create an image to pass to somebody else who used a PC emulator for example that only took disk images how would I do that?

Update: unfortunately this is not for creating images from scratch so no luck there.

Also I've tried BeebitFS and I still can't save out a file even having followed the instructions.
When I SAVE "<filename>", the file doesn't appear anywhere even having selected BFS.

[Edited by andreww at 14:35, 22/11/2003]

1. Create a drive image using !Partition, found inside ArcDFS
2. Copy this file wherever you want, it doesn't really matter
3. Load up BeebIt, open the options menu, and drag the drive image to one of the floppy image slots. Check the box to make sure it's writeable.
4. Run BeebIt and save your stuff to the drive

I'm not entirely sure about the relation between the image number you supply to !Partition and the drive slot you place the image in, so for now it's probably best to use 0 for both.

With BeebItFS, after you have typed BFS7 into one of the ROM slots on the configuration screen and made the ROM slot writable, reboot the emulator and you should be able to select the BFS filing system by typing *BFS <return>.
The default directory for files is the !BeebITFS.Resources directory. Issuing *CAT from BeebIt will catalog the files in this directory. You can also issue *DIR <directory> to change where the files are saved to or loaded from. This is exactly the same as how 6502Em or 65Host works.

Michael - got it to work. I don't know why this wasn't working before as I thought I had done everything you say above.
After saving a test BASIC program I get a filetype of &F19.
In !6502em I get &F0E.
So as you say both work the same but produce different filetypes.